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New Order’s frontman on Joy Division, Morrissey, Trump and the far right, giving up Pernod (‘alcoholic toothpaste’), and how he finally learned to enjoy touring
Bernard Sumner: ‘I’m happier in myself. Better behaved. Less of a f***ing idiot’
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