What the interviewing gardai said to robbery suspect

A partial transcript of Garda Eddie Brennan and Garda William Dempsey interviewing a robbery suspect in Tallaght Garda station…

A partial transcript of Garda Eddie Brennan and Garda William Dempsey interviewing a robbery suspect in Tallaght Garda station in April 2000.

Garda Brennan: You can make it easy on yourself. It is up to you entirely. If you do a bit of talking now, you'll be out of here in no time. Otherwise, you are looking at 12 hours of this . . .

Garda Dempsey: We are here to get the truth,. That's all. The sooner you come clean and admit to it.

Garda Brennan: Just come clean and you'll be out of here in half an hour . . . nothing to say, this is not going to help you in court . . .

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Garda Dempsey: 'Cos if you don't . . .

Garda Brennan: You'll be in for five years or more. . .

(Later, after the suspect says he has nothing to say)

Garda Brennan: Just answer Yes or No, give us a small bit of satisfaction. We know you're not that thick. Sure you're only proving your thickness by saying that.

Garda Dempsey: For almost an hour we are here and you have fucking said nothing in an hour.

Garda Brennan: My God, nothing good.

Garda Dempsey: Nothing but bullshit.

Garda Brennan: Pure lot of shit is all you have been telling. You may take your eyes off that door, because you're going nowhere, pal. Hope you get used to that cell you're in . . . Six by six, not much room to move around in.

Garda Dempsey: With a big black person.

Garda Brennan: With a big black fella there.

Garda Dempsey: He might like your haircut.

Garda Brennan: All he'll want is his bit, boy, up the Gary Glitter.

Garda Dempsey: We're not putting wrong on you.

Garda Brennan: How does that appeal to you. Why would you have that?

Suspect: I have nothing to say.

Garda Dempsey: Are you used to it?

Suspect: I have nothing to say.

An unidentified garda: Do you take it up the Gary Glitter?

Suspect: I have nothing to say.

(Later in interview)

Garda Brennan: You might be a big man here in Tallaght . . .

Garda Dempsey: When you go to Mountjoy, you'll be a small man, that's for sure. Those are fucking real men in there.

Garda Brennan: Hardened men, boy, that are in there seven or eight years. Bent over, boy, and have had soap shoved up the cheeks of their arse. Take it like a man. Someone paying lad packets of smokes to protect him. Your future looking bleak.

Garda Brennan: Wait until you see lads who are there for 10 or 12 years. They will take a shine to you. I don't know, your future is looking bleak.

The gardaí then went on to make the comments about the solicitor which were later described as untrue and unwarranted